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Verizon Wireless, the No. 2 U.S. cellphone carrier, passed on the chance to be the exclusive distributor of the iPhone almost two years ago, balking at Apple's rich financial terms and other demands. More on this . . .While Cingular (er, AT&T, but you know what we mean) couldn't seem prouder of its iPhone exclusivity, apparently Apple's first choice was Verizon, but the two companies couldn't agree on a deal that worked for both companies. "We said no." Said Jim Gerace, a VZW VP. "We have nothing bad to say about the Apple iPhone. We just couldn't reach a deal that was mutually beneficial." Talks began as far back as two years ago, but Apple's demands were steep. They also give us an idea of what exactly is behind the Apple / Cingular agreement: Apple wanted a percentage of monthly service fees, control over distribution that would limit iPhone sales to Apple and Verizon stores, and even some control over service and support for iPhone customers. "They would have been stepping in between us and our customers to the point where we would have almost had to take a back seat ... on hardware and service support," say Gerace. Cingular doesn't quite see it that way, so perhaps Apple changed its conditions a bit when it started courting Cingy. Says Mark Siegel, a Cingular spokesman, "I don't want to leave the impression that these (iPhone) customers are not ours. They are." Mark also mentioned that Cingular would field calls related to wireless service, and that "We think this is a win for Apple, and it is a win for Cingular." Whether consumers -- who would have presumably had a fair shot at an EV-DO iPhone with Verizon as a service provider -- will win in the end is yet to be seen.



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Posted by: Bones (male, mid-30s) (Posted 11/2/07)

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Verizon passing on the iPhone - Greatest business blunder or brilliant move?
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Anonymous (11/2): apple is an unfair business partner, just look at how they treat the music industry. I think verizon did what they had to do. (report)
anonymous2 (11/6): what with making it easier to steal music I beleieve apple did NOT save the music industry, in any shape, form or fashion.... Stepping in between the provider and customer is a bad idea... they were basically trying to make more than what their phones were worth... (report)
Anonymous (11/16): I don't know about "Brilliant", but sounds like a good move if apple was trying to slut verizon out too much. (report)
Anonymous (12/29): Actually... if I think... they took the idea of the iphone and created the Venus and the Voyager... who cares? Most people cant even afford to pay for the iphone and all of the costs for the video, internet etc... (report)
Anonymous (1/20): I am a Mac user... have been for years. I don't think this was the smartest thing VZ could have done, but it's not a blunder by any means. First, we all know that VZ is the best network out there. They are not losing any customers to Cingular over this (we rely on the VZ network too much to switch to an inferior service just for the iPhone). Second, the iPhone has its share of glitches and limitations. The contract b/w Cincular and Apple runs out in a couple of years at which point I'm sure the phone will be available with all providers and hopefully Apple will have worked out all the bugs by then. So really, Cingular didn't get much from this deal. They got a cool looking phone with bugs, and lets face it while they may have stolen business from other inferior providers such as T-mobile and Sprint they don't touch VZ, so it's not even a worry. (report)
bitetheapple (1/23): fuck apple! thats why windows always dominated the market! they are a bunch of socialists (apple)! (report)
Anonymous (1/31): we did it for the lulz (report)
larrylamar1 (2/8): yes i don't want to switch my company to get an IPHONE (report)
Anonymous (2/28): The greatest thing is the unlocked phones which can now be used with your Verizon contract that Apple and ATT won't get any piece of :) (report)
Anonymous (2/29): ZOMG Apple iz teh ghey!!!1!!11! iPhone iz crap n shood di3!!!!11!!1!!1 (report)
Anonymous (3/6): Great Decision VERIZON SUCKS!!!!!!! (report)
Anonymous (3/16): The iPhone is not yet mature. By the time you can get it on VZW it will be great and the iBugs will be worked out. (report)
Anonymous (3/25): The iPhone is a nice cell phone, but let's not pretend it's the be-all end-all of cell technology. There are other good phones from Palm and Blackberry that will only get better. I don't think Apple should get away with setting terms that entitle it to a chunk of all of Verizon's revenue just cause it's supplying one of their phones. At this point in time, I'm very happy with Verizon's service and won't go to AT&T just because of the iPhone. (report)
Anonymous (3/25): The reason we have Verizon is it's everywhere coverage and it's amazing customer service. Anything that would get in the way of that would hamper our satisfaciton with Verizon and we would probably leave. (report)
Anonymous (3/26): I'm not sure the music industry was in any trouble to begin with.... (report)

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Responses (51)
Anonymous (11/2): they flat out blew it and they know it. look at all the new phones they keep launching try to get peoples attention. (report)
Bones (11/2): Apple saved the music industry. I disagree with your opinion anonymous. (report)
dodohead (11/8): Verizon is smart.. but greedy (report)
peaceout907 (11/10): it was a mistake, that should of been fixed. (report)
Anonymous (11/15): Yeah, in hindsight they have to realize it was pretty dumb. Luckily they have a great network, but they underestimated how much this device was going to shake things up. And it's only getting started.. (report)
HeKnows (11/18): verizon never let the customer decide. verizon wants to create a monopoly (much like apple). too bad VW is loosing, as stated above, "the No. 2 U.S. cellphone carrier." Gerace didn't realize the no brainer-that apple would have to step in with assistance for tech support-it's an APPLE product, meaning there would naturally be areas that only apple could address. Rightly so, there would still be areas that only VW could address. It should have been a no brainer to accept the offer. I wonder how many people left or wanted to leave Verizon b/c of the iphone. (report)
Anonymous (11/21): Verizon's lack of choice in software and inferior applications is getting tiresome. I'm looking to switch away from Verizon and to the iPhone at earliest opportunity. There are simply fewer and fewer reasons to stick with Verizon with each passing day. (report)
Anonymous (11/25): Guys, I want a iPhone, but I don't have verizon.... Ah well... Its verizon's fault they don't use SIM cards. :( (report)
TLTaylor01 (11/28): True, Verizon continueally launches phones that the public is not interested in. Besides that you purchase a phone there. A week later it's obsolete. But given there ongoing crappy levels of customer service you learn to expect less from them or switch providers. (report)
Anonymous (11/29): I'm glad Verizon didn't take the iPhone. Every phone they get they strip down the software so you're forced to use their services instead of getting the phone you bought. Verizon would have ruined the iphone. (report)
Zimbobway (12/2): There would have been many more hits with the ipone for Verizon! More than Cingular! I would already have one by now. Verizon would make so much money. (report)
Anonymous (12/6): Verizon lost (report)
Anonymous (12/14): I'm with verizon and I would have paid more then the current asking price to recieve the iphone had apple supplied verizon with the rights, good job Steve... (report)
Anonymous (12/16): Now I am more convinced to switch to AT&T... No business sense for VZ and they may never make a deal with Apple .. Their loss (report)
Anonymous (12/16): The Future is here and Apple had a handle on it. VZ couldn't see past their controlling paws (report)
Anonymous (1/1): blunder forced alot of loyal customers to go to at&t (report)
wildman314 (1/8): they came out with a similar, but not even close phone, the lg voyager, which personally i look at as crap. (report)
Anonymous (1/16): I wish I had an iphone but instead I'm stuck under contract with my boring verizon phone. I'm leaving verizon in May when my contract is up. (report)
Anonymous (1/18): Verizon is just greedy. The Iphone is TOO user friendly. They want everything to be esoteric and difficult so customers pay for services they don't use. Like Vcast music for instance. What crap. I bought a chocolate and that stupid music kit and have never been able to use it. What a load of BS that I have to BUY music that I already OWN just so I can listen to it on my phone. Or that I have to BUY for 3.99 a ringtone for a song I have already PURCHASED. Verizon likes ripping people off, and apple might have stood in the way of that. (Oh BTW, I am a verizon customer and have been for about 5 years. It is about the only system offered out here in the boonies). I just think all cell phone carriers need a swift kick in the ass. BADLY. And don't even get me started on the music industry. Oh poor them. Whatever. They need a cold boot also. (report)
Anonymous (1/18): I love apple and I would totally switch to at&t to get an Iphone, but unfortunately At&t is not offered where I live (in the midwestern boonies) so I have to stick with Verizon for now :( (report)
Anonymous (1/21): I've been with VZW for 4 years, but will be switching to ATT this fall just for the iphone. (report)
Anonymous (1/22): Verizon blew it!!!! Im just glad I don't need the iPhone. Wait a minute. Nah I need it! (report)
Anonymous (1/23): Wish Verizon would have made this work - I really like the service and everyone I know uses it. Switching to ATT for the iPhone would be a large cost to me - both on new hardware and paying for calls that used to be free. Please VZW, find a way. :) (report)
Anonymous (1/23): Verizon is #2, if they want to be #1 they need to learn to bend over a little to get there. Nothing wrong with taking the bad sit if you enjoy the ride. (report)
Anonymous (1/24): Anonymous (1/24) When my contract's up, I'll likely move on to iPhone. (report)
shadow (1/27): wow they past up the offer to sell the phone made by the company that revolutionized mp3 players in a way no other company can even try to amount to for... the voyager... smart move verizon... smart move... (report)
Anonymous (1/31): they did it for the lulz (report)
Anonymous (2/1): They super Blew it. I think it's funny that they keep covering for it with the "iphone killer." I've used this so called killer. If they wanted it to live up to it's nick name they should of armed it first. (report)
Anonymous (2/7): Verizon is the new evil empire. I would've switched to Cingular a year ago if I could have, I've wanted to switch since just after I got my brand new RAZR, took it home and found out that VZW disabled most of the cool features the phone came with. Bluetooth is severely crippled, the only thing that works is address book sync, everything else is disabled by Verizon to force users to use their pay-to-play services. If they did the same thing to the iPhone it would be basically useless. Unfortunately I can't switch to Cingular for another year, I'm locked into a 2yr contract. But as soon as that contract is over, I'm saying adios to Verizon and their monopolistic ways. (report)
Anonymous (2/9): Fucking jerks! (report)
Anonymous (2/9): They should have demanded the changes but not have passed on the iphone. It was a mistake to underestimate the apple customers love for tech stuff. (report)
Anonymous (2/25): Apple didn't save shit. More people download illegally than use iTunes rediculously incomplete library anyways. (report)
Anonymous (3/8): maybe not the greatest blunder ever...there's too many to count...but the carriers have always had too much control over the devices (meaning: ALL). apple had the clout to control the device. that changed the industry dramatically and will continue to change it...i'm a vz customer for years...like the svc generally, but i really might consider switching if i have to forever for VZ iPhone. (report)
Anonymous (3/14): Verizon would have cleaned up and wiped out the competition. They were too busy bleeding their customers for every penny instead of going for the gold. They should start listening to their customers....Apple is way better at developing user interfaces and Technological Innovation. Stop putting a Verizon tail-spin on the user interface; you don't know what you are doing. (report)
Anonymous (3/15): blah (report)
Anonymous (3/15): I have been with Verizon for years. When my current contract runs out, I am switching carriers so that I can have an iphone. It's really too bad because I have been very satisfied with my service. I have many Verizon lines, for business & personal. Too bad Verizon. Biggest mistake you could have made. If I am changing, you can be sure many, many others are changing as well. (report)
Anonymous (3/15): Verizon is a shitty company run but morons who have no concept of customer service. They do however have two things going, A huge customer base, and IN calling. This allows them to compete, and only this. The iphone for them would have been a winfall. (report)
Anonymous (3/17): dumb move. (report)
Anonymous (3/18): Greed is GOOD. The error is that 10% of something is better than 10% of nothing (report)
Anonymous (3/26): oucchhh shame on you verizon. thats why im switching (report)
lolzers (3/29): I think verizon can be very selfish when it comes to money..ive been on verizon forever i love them dont get me wrong but i think if verizon went with the deal they would have made their service alot better..verizon phones right now dont have good features and the iphone would have made a very nice impression for verizon (report)
sdfgsdfgsdfg (4/3): i love verizon and the iphone would be nice to have why cant they just be together more business would be at verizon (report)
Anonymous (4/5): Loosers... (report)
Anonymous (4/6): I really want an iPhone. My contract is up with Verizon and I am thinking of switching, but I travel a lot and like the coverage Verizon has. Wish I could have both. (report)
Anonymous (4/10): Verizon blew it big time. The iPhone would have placed their phone inventory in the 21st century. Their awesome network and Apple would have been unbeatable in the cell phone industry. Now folks, including myself, want to switch. This 2yr agreement BS is for the birds. Your phone is obsolete in 3 months but you have to keep it until your agreement is up for renewal in 2yrs. Why don't they understand -- the agreement should tie you to their service NOT the physical phone. Phones depreciate quicker than cars; they're garbage after 2yrs. (report)
anononmyiosado (4/16): gaygaygaygaygaygaygay!!!! (report)
Anonymous (4/19): This website is useless! (report)
ccb (4/23): the Iphone is superior to ANYTING Verizon has or will have. They should have negotiated better. I mean, I figure that Apple let them SEE the Iphone, so what, they didn't like it??? Are they idiots??? (report)
Anonymous (5/2): Just thought I'd mention a new petition to Verizon that goes directly to their management asking for the iphone... Sign it here http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/verizoniphone/ (report)
jaya_23 (5/2): I think that Verizon blew it. AT&T has improved their network and continues to do so. While I still say Verizon has a better network (for now) AT&T is making it much easier to make the switch. For all those posts saying that nobody is leaving Verizon for the iPhone I personally know 6 people who have jumped. Verizon has always been higher priced than everyone else and has always carried boring phones, when is the last time people have spent the night in line for the big release of the LG Voyager. Come on!! I have played with the "iPhone killer" and I got to say it actually made me want an iPhone even more. (report)
Anonymous (5/5): I switched from AT&T to Verizon years ago....and found Verizon to be much better. But I really want an iPhone, so as soon as my contract is up it's bye bye Verizon. Wish Verizon didn't pass up the iPhone deal....I would have loved to stay with them. They blew it BIG. (report)

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